Can You Lose Your Salvation 4

In Romans 11:17-22 we are told about how gentiles are grafted into Israel to share in the blessings that God has promised through Abraham. Some think that it shows people being saved and then unsaved, so let's look at that passage and then review what it says.

Rom 11:17-22 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. Then you will say, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but stand in awe. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.

Roman's chapter 11 is an interesting passage of scripture and how one understand it hinges on whether one considers that gentiles have been grafted into places left in 'Physical Israel' when 'Physical Israelite' branches were cut off, or whether one considers that gentiles converts have been grafted into 'Spiritual Israel' when 'Jews' were cut off this cultivated olive tree. Obviously they have to be grafted into a suitable 'matching' place.

So, when are these Christians grafted in? Obviously they are grafted in after accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour. The question then is - Can Spiritual Christians be grafted into a natural (carnal) olive tree? Is Jesus the root of a carnal olive tree?

Can I suggest this only makes sense if we Christians have been grafted into a Spiritual olive tree of which Jesus is the root!

But how can carnal Israelites be cut out of this tree?

Can I suggest that as children of Abraham they were automatically put into this tree, pending their acceptance to live by faith! Just as the sins of ALL in the world have been forgiven but this salvation is only inputed to them when they accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour!

So those Jews who did not come to know Jesus and who relied on the Law and their own efforts to become righteous, can be taught about the goodness and mercy and grace of our Lord and then, on acceptance of God's provision by faith, they will be grafted back into the place that was reserved for them as Abraham's progeny.

Then they move from physical Israel into 'Spiritual Israel'. If they reject so great a salvation then they will be permanently cut off from the cultivated olive tree because they have deliberately rejected Jesus.

And gentiles who have now been given knowledge of the love of God, if they reject Jesus as Lord and Saviour their fate will be the same.

So all are treated the same! God, not being a respector of persons, gives all people the opportunity to put faith in His provision for eternal life.

We know from John 10:27-29 that once we give ourselves to Jesus Christ and place ourselves in his care by acepting his sacrifice on our behalf and making him our Lord and Saviour, then nothing can separate us from him, or shake us out of his hand.

John 10:27-29 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give unto them eternal life and they shall NEVER perish and no-one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all, and NO-ONE can snatch them out of My Father's hand.”

To me this and other similar scriptures makes the idea of being saved, then being lost, then saved, then lost again a non-starter, because it makes God seem like a catcher with 'butter-fingers'. He has you and gives you eternal life and salvation and then he loses you and has to take them away. Then He gets another chance and gives you eternal life again and salvation but can lose you again....!

So one has to ask, "how 'eternal' is eternal life"? And your answer applies to God also!

But, here's another logical thoght.
1. Jesus said that He would never leave us or forsake us.
2. Jesus said He would give us believers Holy Spirit who would be with us forever.
3. Jesus said that He and the Father are one and that the Father would also take up residence in us.

So if a believer can end up in Hell, wouldn't they all have to go with him/her? To do otherwise would make God a liar!

We learn though from the first letter of John we learn this...

1Joh 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

John tells us that believers who put their trust in Jesus are, as with John, 'given' eternal life. It's something they 'have' already. How long does eternity last for? If God can give it to you one day and take it away the next, just how trustworthy is He when He gives us gifts?

We all have to come to the point where we either accept or reject allegiance to Jesus. Do we follow the example of the demons who reject the sovereignty of Jesus or do we accept Christ's sovereignty, trust in him only, and receive salvation in Jesus Christ.

And to my understanding, once received always kept, as you live in Christ and grow in grace.

As children of Adam, our good deeds could not make us righteous; the result of Adam's sin being so all encompassing.

As sons of God, our bad deeds cannot condemn us; the result of Jesus' blood shed for us on Calvary being so all encompassing.

But while we come to God as we are, we don't stay that way! Holy Spirit in us works to change us to be like Jesus.

So what is God doing now? As we walk in the Spirit and are guided by Holy Spirit, we renew our minds; we grow to be more and more like Jesus. And Holy Spirit completes that work in us till the return of Jesus, our Lord and Saviour. And so we will forever be with the Lord!


Best wishes for Grace and the Peace of Jesus.


Another thought....

Can you lose your salvation? - 1 2 3 4 Conclusion